24Behold, the LORD our God hath showed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth. (Deut 5:)
We no longer are afraid.
We say we're not to fear the Lord.
We hide from God through our doctrine, saying that God no longer cares if we do wrong, as long as we're wearing the fig leaf apron of "being under the blood."
We look to the faults of others rather than seek out our own weaknesses and faults.
We follow the serpent's advice of eating from the tree of knowledge, partaking of the world we're to separate ourself from, while claiming the right to do so because of our church affiliation and our status as "King's kids."
And we deny that God now speaks to individuals as He did in Old Testament times, thus justifying our not having heard from God ourselves.
6A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. (Mal 1:)
Who are the priests that despise (think down on, not show due respect - these are my words for it) God? I would guess it's those who don't honor and fear Him. Isn't that what the passage above is saying?
5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. (Luke 12:)
18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. (Rev 18:)
6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. (Rev 14:)
Tell me now, do these verses, describing an event yet to come, sound to you as if God is no longer angry? Do you read into them that God doesn't want us to fear Him, just to hold Him in reverence as I hear preached so often?
I don't know about you, but I've got the sneaking suspicion there's going to be a lot of people around the Judgement Seat re-evaluating their idea that God is all love and we're not to fear Him any longer.
VOICE - H6963 - kole, kole From an unused root meaning to call aloud; a voice or sound: - + aloud, bleating, crackling, cry (+ out), fame, lightness, lowing, noise, + hold peace, [pro-] claim, proclamation, + sing, sound, + spark, thunder (-ing), voice, + yell.
Here again we have everything from saying nothing (hold peace) to yelling and thunder. I ask, would you like to be the one to try and determine what God is saying by interpreting the Hebrew Bible?
23And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt. (Ex 9:)
12By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches. (Psalm 104:)
34And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. (Num 16:)
Take your pick. You've got plenty to choose from, and a wide variety at that. All the above words in bold are the same Hebrew word, as given in the description in my concordance for the word "voice." This brings to my mind the time God showed Himself to Elijah, where He presented Himself as everything from an earthquake to a still small voice. Could all those appearances be compressed into a single word I wonder?
Adam, Moses and Elijah were not the only ones to hear the voice of God. People throughout history have heard the voice of God. Let's see how they heard Him:
6Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said, (Job 40:)
18For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it? 19Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. (Jer 23:)
5And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. 7My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches ["Puzzle, riddle, hard questions, trick, proverb" see Habakkuk 3:6; Judges 14:12; Ezek 17:2; 1Kings 10:1; Mat 13:13; 1Cor 2:7; Ezek 14:9; Isaiah 28:13]; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? (Num 12:)
9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11And saw heaven opened, ...... 13And there came a voice to him, .....17Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, (Acts 10:)
1And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, ..... 3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, (Acts 9:)
10And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. (Acts 9:)
1After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. (Gen 15:)
1The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. (Isaiah 1:)
24Afterwards the spirit took me up, and brought me in a vision by the Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I had seen went up from me. (Ezek 11:)
10I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets. (Hos 12:)
13I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. (Dan 7:)
11And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I. (Gen 31:)
5And Joseph dreamed a dream, and he told it his brethren: and they hated him yet the more. (Gen 37:)
9Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. 20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. (Mat 1:)
9According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord. 10And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense. 11And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense. 12And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, (Luke 1:)
26And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, .......34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.. (Luke 1:)
10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, (Rev 1:)
1It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. (2Cor 12:)
11And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake: 12And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice. 13And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah? (1Kings 19.)
28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (Joel 2:)
14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;...... and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord. (Acts 2:)
17Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice: 18And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments; 19And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honour; and that thou mayest be an holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken. (Deut 26:) [Doesn't this sound like he's talking to the Church today?]
11And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. (Ex 33:)
3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. (Rev 22:)
It was nearly thirty-eight years ago that I first heard the Words of the Lord speaking to me. Then with thirty years of not hearing from Him, I again heard His voice seven years ago. This last time I heard Him I tried hard to learn how others heard from God. I checked out books, I asked people, and I looked in the Bible. For some reason I missed these passages I've printed out here, but of those people I talked to about how they heard from the Lord I concluded that most of them had not actually done so. Their experience was rather like those I have otherwise, such as a feeling or a "nudging," but they hadn't actually heard Him speak. I often feel a guiding of the Spirit when I write, and the places I'm led to look, and the discoveries I make, the which (in my mind), could have only come from the Lord.
The first time I heard the Lord's voice I was in great despair, feeling dejected and suicidal. I didn't hear an audible voice that anyone else could hear, it was in my head in such a way as to be unmistakable as to the source of the voice. I had no doubts about who was speaking. And it wasn't because I had been praying, or that I was seeking God, or that I was "in the Spirit," that the voice came to me,because I was none of those things. I was just laying in my bed (the first time) dwelling on my misery and the futility of the future.
We think when Jesus talks to someone He would either be sweet and gentle (like in songs) or that there would be a rumbling of thunder, trumpets blown, and His statement preceded by "I Jesus!" There was none of that. The voice just suddenly came to me, from the area of my left ear (in my head) and said: "Call out my name." It was 10:00 at night, the lights had been out for some time, and I was surrounded by people sleeping. This was not the time to be yelling anything. I resisted. Again the voice came to me, more demanding this time. Again I held my peace (although I was experiencing internal stress). Then I felt the Lord leave, and my chest became heavy and empty. I hadn't noticed anything in my chest until it was gone. We don't know what we have, such as our health, until it isn't there anymore. For a day and a half I lay in my bed, and as far as I can remember I didn't even eat, feeling depressed and empty. Then very slowly I began to feel normal again. Ever since then, for nearly 38 years, when I start to feel the leaving of the Lord, I cry out: "Don't do that again!" and I get scared. I've given Him plenty of reasons to leave, but for some reason He hasn't.
I had a beard for over 40 years. Seven years ago I was kneeling at my bed praying, and again I heard that unmistakable voice tell me to shave my beard. That's all the voice said: "Shave your beard." I hesitated, hoping it was my imagination, and said "Just a minute, after I pray." Again the voice came to me saying the very same words, but more commanding, and growing angry. I hesitated. And the third time the voice came, this time He was obviously angry. I said "Ok, ok, I'm going."
That was seven years ago and I'm still beardless.
The first time I heard from the Lord I was given the gift of prophesy. I was telling the other people what would happen in the near future, telling them things about their family I had no way of knowing, and interpreting dreams. To be correct, it wasn't me doing these things, I just found myself saying things I couldn't believe I was saying. This lasted a few weeks as I recall, during which time my ego was inflating to the clouds. Then it all left me. There's been moments since then that I've experienced a small reoccurrence of this "gift," but nothing approaching what happened in the beginning.
This last time the Lord talked to me (having been in the Army I can tell you for sure the voice of the Lord was like that of a drill sergeant, very firm and very commanding) I experienced a full month of crying and sobbing all through the day. I was afraid to be around people for fear of breaking out uncontrollably in tears. These weren't tears of sorrow by any means. In fact they were (and still are when I experience them, which isn't as often as I would like) tears more akin to joy and release. I felt as if the Holy Spirit was communicating with the Father. I'm not saying that's what was happening, it's just a guess, and the way it felt at the time.
Does this all sound like a big fairy tale or the ravings of a madman? It would to me if I wasn't on this end of the story. But the world doubting my story doesn't make it anything other than what it is. And there might just possibly be one person out there in Web Land who has had such an experience and would like to know they are not alone, that someone understands and believes them. Whatever, part of being a Christian, in my mind, is sharing our experiences and what we've learned with others. That is what I'm doing here with this website.
This last portion of the study on hearing from God is especially meaningful to me. I get to see how others have heard from the Lord. I see that even the great prophets and the Apostles heard from the Lord in dreams, visions and voices. I had wondered. And though I've read it many times, I hadn't noticed that Paul's experience in Paradise was not that of a vision. He said: "How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." (2Cor 12:4). It was what he heard that was unspeakable, not necessarily what he saw.
I've seen what I believe Paul has seen. I believe I know what he's talking about. Paul was a man possessed. He put every fiber of his being into "pressing for the mark of the high calling." The chances are (because I see it everywhere I go and in everyone I talk to or read about) you don't know what Paul was talking about because you think you have it all when your were baptized, or that by following certain rules you've already acquired all that Paul had. This is the big lie I try so hard to expose. I've seen the "High Calling." I know what Paul was desperately seeking. And anything short of that is not enough. I thought Paul saw what Paradise was like. I had, and I highly suspect you have as well, the picture of Paul walking around Heaven beholding the wonderful sights of a place "up there" where God supposedly lives. That's not what happened, and that's not what Paradise is. It's much more than we can think or imagine. And we can't think of the truth because we've had our heads filled with bedtime stories that hold us in our cribs, still having to have our Spiritual diapers changed while being told how grown up we are.
I haven't been able to explain what the High Calling is. I've tried with thousands of pages, and a hundred different ways to explain the unexplainable. But I know I've failed with every attempt. Even if someone tried their best to find what they had been shown as I have, they wouldn't find it in my writings because it just isn't there. And the reason it in't there is because I only had bits and pieces of the picture myself. I'm far from seeing it all now, but there's enough pieces of the puzzle that has been given to me that I can see an outline of what God has in mind for us. I plan on working on that project coming up soon. You won't find it in this study. This, like all the other studies and stories, is nothing more than the table upon which the puzzle will be placed.
Why, you might ask, is God showing me something He isn't showing the great ministers of the Word? What makes me so special? That's a question I keep asking. But I know the answer. The reason God is showing me what He has in mind and not those standing behind the pulpit is two fold, yet the answer is just one.
One: In order to find something you first have to know you don't have it. If you know you're missing something you'll look for it. I keep harping on the problem with doctrine and the churches. That's cruel of me to be sure. But take note that I'm only repeating what the Bible tells us very emphatically. I'm not pointing the finger at anyone. I'm trying to get everyone's attention to the fact that God is pointing the finger, and what it is He's pointing at. I can only try. But my words, as did the words of the prophets, fall on deaf ears. I keep asking the Lord why I should be saying all I do in these writings, what good will it do? If people won't listen to God and Jesus, even seeing the example Jesus gave us, then what good will my words do? Well, one good thing it does is it teaches me, and if that's all it does, then it certainly is enough to keep me going. An example of this is what I'm learning about the voice of God, and the High Calling that has just recently been revealed to me. Had I not been laying out the table of this and other studies, God would have had nothing to build upon what He is now showing me.
We have to know we don't know. We have to search for what we can't see. We have to get in water over our head before we can truly learn to swim (in faith). We have to ask before we will receive an answer. And we have to ask the right person, the one who has the answer rather than the one who claims to have all the answers. We don't ask the Lord for the answers for the reason below. We ask (those of us who are really interested in anything other than sleeping in church) the Pastor, the Sunday School teacher, and we consult books about the Bible and about God. We think these people have the answer. They don't. Not by a long shot. And even if they do have the answer, it won't do you or me any good because we have to go to the same person that authority went to in order to understand the answer. You might have a disease just like such n'such a person. But you don't let that person diagnose your problem and prescribe the medicine or the treatment they were given. You go to the doctor yourself, just as that person did. Consulting books and pastors and teachers is nothing different than the picture just given. In order for you to advance to square two, you first have to reach square one. To advance into the second grade, you have to complete the first grade. You can't expect to have a second grader, or even a High School student teach you and expect to advance a grade. You have to experience that class yourself. This is not being taught in the churches. Churches bind their congregations to a certain set of beliefs and insist they go no farther, nor look anywhere else for truth other than what is given them by the church alone. This is exactly what the Pharisees did. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.
Reason number two that we are not shown the true picture of what God wants of us, and what His purposes are for His creation, which we are a part of: You (speaking generically of people in general) don't believe. We've been taught that we believe because the concept of belief has been relegated to a thought process. Belief is not a mental exercise as is so commonly supposed. In fact belief isn't even in feelings. Belief is something that has to be experienced, it has to be lived. We're taught that we can walk into a church, take a dip in the baptismal tank, and answer yes when asked if we believe that Jesus died for our sins and was resurrected, and instantly we're saved. Meanwhile we're asking "who is Jesus? What does resurrected mean? What does it mean to be saved?" This and many other questions we have when we repeat the words "I believe." We haven't the faintest idea of what we've said, or what it means. And what's more, we don't care. And why don't we care? Because we haven't been baptized into the body of Christ, we've been baptized into a church, a denomination, a social organization that happens to fly the Christian banner. This is not faith that saves. This is not the belief Jesus shed His blood for. Jesus made it very clear what He expects from those who choose to follow Him. But His Words have been drowned out by those behind the pulpit. And it really doesn't matter if we're told a pack of lies, because we don't care to begin with. And we don't care because we don't believe. We're being told what we want to hear, and that's enough for us.
What I'm saying here is the most important part of this entire study. And it's [was, while in its original form as a part of Fig Leaves] buried in a long, boring study that no one will ever read. Well, what can I expect? That's the way it is in the Bible as well. God's truth is scattered throughout stories that either isn't read, isn't believed, or is taken as children's bedtime stories. Which brings me back to the story of Adam and Eve.
12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. (John 16:)
3But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:)
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