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From the Pastor's Pulpit


they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

"Good evening ladies and gentlemen. My name is Candor Dispassion and I will be your moderator for this session of the Pastor's Pulpit. Today we have as our guest a well known pastor of one of the largest churches in the state. Please welcome Pastor Insular Van Imperious. Pastor Imperious, thank you for joining us today."

"My pleasure Mr Dispassion."

"The topic I would like to present for your consideration is the freedom, or the lack thereof, allowed the members of a given church to decide for themselves what rules they will follow, and to what degree they may do so. The reason I'm considering this question is the extremely high percentage of people of any given denomination to be completely dedicated to that doctrine, and the, what seems to me, very narrow minded attitude taken by those adherents. Could you enlighten me and my listening audience in this area, at least as it applies to you and your own church?"

"I would be most happy to share with you my own views and the views of our regional headship. As for other denominations and churches, I can only assume that they are inclined to see things much the same way as we do, that is, other than those we consider to be cults who are known to keep a stranglehold on the minds of their adherents."

"That would be my assumption as well Pastor Imperious. In this regard, what is your attitude toward those who might believe differently than you or your denomination?"

"We teach that each person should follow their own heart and search the Scriptures for themselves. After all Mr Dispassion, the Holy Spirit is within each and every baptized Christian, and His purpose is to guide that Christian into truth and perfection. Any church or denomination that teaches anything contrary to this principle is of the devil and not to be listened to."

"I see Pastor Imperious. Then by this I take it that you would have no problem with someone in your eldership teaching that, let's say, Jesus and Buddha are linked somehow as is taught in some traditional churches?"

"I believe you've reached for an extreme example to prove your point Mr Dispassion. I think you know that I would have to draw the line before such teaching as this. Such teachings, Mr Dispassion, is clearly the work of the devil."

"I must confess, Pastor Imperious, that I did reach for that example. But shortening my reach a bit, let us say one wishes to teach there is no rapture, that is, there is to be no catching up to heaven on a cloud as I understand you to believe? What if a person was to feel the Holy Spirit has instructed him to believe that the so-called rapture is a catching up of the spirit rather than a literal catching up in the air. Would such a one be allowed to voice their opinion openly?"

"The rapture is a foundational belief that separates the true church from those we call a cult Mr Dispassion. To deny the rapture as a literal catching up is to deny the very essence of the reason Jesus died on the cross. In fact, the teaching of a literal catching up is so foundational in the church body that only a cult would proclaim such a thing. No Mr Dispassion, I, nor do I believe any other traditional church would allow such a teaching. Such a teaching is straight from the devil and must not be considered."

"I see. Well Pastor Imperious, let me give you a bit softer of an example to consider. You are a Trinity believing church, are you not?"

"Certainly we are Mr Dispassion. Every true church believes in the Trinity. To believe otherwise is to accept teachings that are straight from the devil."

"I see. Then I take it Pastor Imperious that someone in your congregation who believes that Jesus is anything but God incarnate would not be allowed to voice such an opinion. Is that correct?"

"I would have to affirm that statement Mr Dispassion. Anyone advocating such a doctrine is clearly not led by the Holy Spirit and is holding a teaching straight from the devil. In order to assure church unity it is imperative that false doctrine be quenched and kept from spreading. It is the way the Lord and the Apostles established the church, and anything less is not of the Holy Spirit and straight from the mouth of the devil."

"I see. Well let me try an area not so disagreeable to your doctrine Pastor Imperious, that is if I can find one. You are as I understand it a King James church. That is you advocate that the King James version of the Bible is the most accurate. Suppose someone wished to teach from, for instance the Good News Bible. What would be your take on such a decision?"

"Truth is an absolute necessity in order for the workings of the Lord to be understood. There are a lot of Bibles being printed these days that have obliterated or perverted this truth. For a good Gospel believing church to allow teaching from such as these would be to lead their congregation astray, and such can not be tolerated. No Mr Dispassion, I could not allow teaching from any other version than the King James."

"Well Pastor Imperious, let me take one more stab at finding an area where your concept of freedom to follow the Holy Spirit might be applied. Let us say it is learned that one of your elders was not baptized by the traditional dunking, as your denomination advocates, but was rather sprinkled in his youth. What would be your reaction to such a situation as this?"

"I see no problem here Mr Dispassion, I would simply have him baptized in the correct manner."

"And if the said elder was to object to such a rebaptizing Pastor Imperious?"

"If an elder of my church refused to be baptized in the correct manner I would have no recourse but to have him dismissed from the body of elders. It is imperative that all those in the body of Christ be of one mind and of one heart. Rebellion can not be tolerated. It is an army we are in, not a boy scout troop Mr Dispassion. If a soldier does not follow the lead of his commander, than he must be either judiciously dealt with, or be ejected from the service. To do otherwise is to weaken the body of Christ and make a mockery of the Lord Jesus Christ and what He has done for us. To do anything less than what is demanded of us is not of God, and is in fact straight from the devil."

"I see Pastor Imperious. I believe I now understand a little more fully the freedom the church allows its members, and just who that commander is that they are required to follow. I was in doubt before, but thanks to you those doubts have been allayed. Thank you for sharing with us your opininion Pastor Imperious."

"You are entirely welcome Mr Dispassion. And I'm glad I could help you and your audience realize that the church is not the cattle-driven organization it is sometimes made out to be. Rather it is a body of free agents willing to follow the Lord in whichever direction He chooses to lead them, in spite of the doctrines of the church he might happen to attend."

"With that I will say, this is Candor Dispassion bidding you all a good night, and hoping you will tune in to the Pastor's Pulpit next week."

1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. (2Peter 2:)

13Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place. 14Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. 15Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. (Jer 14:)

12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. (John 16:)

11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (Acts 17:)




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