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but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
In today's episode we find Pastor Leo discussing the Bible with his friend Pastor Daniel Palisades. Listen:
"I can't get over the hard-handedness of those disciples Leo. I mean, I can understand that they were only human, but they followed Jesus for over three years, even performed miracles themselves through Jesus. Yet at the end of all this, they still didn't believe what He had told them."
"And on what do you base this assumption Dan? I don't see that in my Bible. Of course they had their problems with disbelief, but I suspect you're thinking of one particular episode."
"That I am Leo. I'm thinking of how Jesus told the eleven to wait for them in Jerusalem and He would meet them there. But instead they decide to return to their old occupation of fishing and wandered off to Galilee. They had seen that Jesus was risen from the dead, so why, I wonder, didn't they do what they were told?"
"You've got your Scriptures mixed up Dan. That's not what the Bible says."
"There you go again Leo. Of course that's what the Bible says. Look, it's right here in John 'Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee.' And here in Luke Jesus said 'And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high'. Jesus said wait, they say they're going. And Galilee is a long ways from Jerusalem you know."
"Yes, I know that Daniel. I also know that what you read, at least the way you interpreted what you read, is not what happened."
"Why are you so argumentative Leo? Whatever someone says to you, you take an opposite view. What I just showed you is the view I was taught in seminary school. It's the view every preacher and theologian I've heard has taken. And I'm not a youngster right out of school you know. I've been around the block a time or two. Can't you just accept facts for what they are instead of feeling you have to butt your head against every rock in the stream of life?"
"I concede that what you just said is true Dan. But let me ask you this, if I can prove to you that what you have just said is wrong, I mean about the disciples disobeying, will you concede that your instruction, that is, what you have accepted as fact might be in error? If one longstanding fact is wrong, isn't it possible that many other of your firm stances might also be wrong?"
"I'm not wrong Leo. I know what I'm talking about. But yes, I suppose if you could show me where I'm reading this passage wrong I would be willing to reevaluate other accepted doctrines. I'm supposing that's what you're asking of me. But at the same time I want to toss the ball back in your court. If you can't convincingly prove your conjecture, are you willing to take a second look at your unorthodox views and doctrines? After all Leo, it's you who's the fish floundering on the banks of the mainstream you know."
"It's a deal Daniel. I accept."
"All right Leo, show me where I'm wrong."
"Ok, to begin with, let's look at the Galilee episode. You say the disciples ran off to Galilee because they didn't have faith in Jesus, is that correct?"
"That's correct. I can't see any other reason for their doing as they did."
"Read this passage from Matthew. It's the account of the women at the tomb after the resurrection."
"Ok Leo, it says 'He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you."
"And read here just a few verses farther along."
"And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.' I'll be. Now why didn't I notice that before? Jesus did tell them to go to Galilee after all. But He also told them to stay in Jerusalem. There's a conflict here."
"No there isn't Daniel. Did you notice that this event occurred immediately after the resurrection? Forty days later Jesus ascended into Heaven. Now, read again the passage that describes Jesus telling the disciples to wait in Jerusalem."
"Ok, I've got it, it says 'And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven."
"You'll notice that this event took place just moments before the ascension. There was no time for the disciples to have disobeyed this order. And the verses after this say the disciples remained in Jerusalem. Have I proven my point Daniel?"
"I would say you have Leo. Why didn't I see this before? I've preached on this passage several times, and each time I presented the popular view. I just don't know what to think of it."
"You do what every other preacher does Daniel. You don't read what's in front of you, you read into the passages what you've been taught to see. And that is why I don't go along with the stream. I see too many places in the Bible where the mainstream way of thinking contradicts the Word. Now Dan, about our agreement, are you going to take a fresh look at the Bible?"
"I'll certainly give it a shot Leo, just as soon as I get an opportunity. But you do know, that's a lot to ask of one who has been preaching the message I have all my life. I mean, I might end up like you, and be on the outs as far as the religious community is concerned."
"Yes, I do know that Dan. And I know you won't follow up on your agreement."
"How can you say that Leo? Of course I will, just as soon as I get the chance."
"No you won't Daniel. I know you won't for the very reasons you just gave, it would go against what you've been taught, and against the mainstream. And another reason I know you won't take a close look at the Bible to see if you're in error is because you already have your excuse for not doing so."
7But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you. (Mark 16:)
3Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. (John 21:)
48And ye are witnesses of these things. 49And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. 50And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. 51And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. (Luke 24:)
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Mat 24:)
26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:)
17For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. 18Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have. (Luke 8:)
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